This disc was a beautiful as I thought it was when ordering it off of the Prodigy Website. I've always preferred buying discs in person but Prodigy is so reliable that I have began to trust ordering their discs online. The h4v2 is more stable for me in the 500 plastic then my other h4v2's. I can start this on a slight hizer and have it flip up to flat the way many holes demand on wooded courses. I love the disc and am glad I made the purchase.