Immediately bagged after a few field throws. One of my go to discs in the woods, because it flips easy, and if you take a little off, it will have a soft finish at the end. Or powered up, will hold a nice right turn. In the open, it's a really nice roller disc. I can see this being useful for both beginners and experienced players. 400 plastic feels great in the hand as well as being pretty durable. Definitely recommend.